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		<title>Fire Roll Method Tips</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2025 23:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fire roll is what I consider to be the easiest fire-by-friction method. It uses two flat planks and a rolled up fiber tinder bundle. The process can be viewed on various social media but when attempted it can sometimes be challenging initially for beginners. Here are a few tips that you might find helpful. [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/20250829_182116-01.jpeg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/20250829_182116-01-300x225.jpeg" alt="Fire Roll Tips" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-7138" /></a>The fire roll is what I consider to be the easiest fire-by-friction method. It uses two flat planks and a rolled up fiber tinder bundle. The process can be viewed on various social media but when attempted it can sometimes be challenging initially for beginners. Here are a few tips that you might find helpful. </p>
<p><B>Creating the fiber roll</B></p>
<p>The simplest fiber source are 100% cotton balls that can be unrolled, stretched out, and given a generous sprinkling of ashes on top. Then it&#8217;s tightly rolled lengthwise into a cylinder that when complete looks like a cocoon. As experience is built there are other<br />
&#8220;<a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5880" title="Fire Roll Tinder Variations" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Fire Roll Tinder Variations</a>&#8221; that can also work.</p>
<p><B>Prepping the fiber roll</B></p>
<p>The fiber roll is placed on the bottom board and the top board is placed over the fibre roll  and is repeatedly stroked in one direction to compress the roll until it smooths out and takes the shape of a pencil. This process  initiates heat in the roll. </p>
<p><B>Stroking the roll</B></p>
<p>Now the back and forth stroke action begins. It helps to lean over the board to generate greater friction for increased heat. After many passes at some point you should feel some resistance where the roll kind-of grabs. It&#8217;s not uncommon to smell smoke so after a few more rolls it&#8217;s time to stop and remove the top board and view the roll for a dark spot and perhaps smoke.</p>
<p><B>Finding the ember</B></p>
<p>You should be able to feel a hot spot and I have found it helpful to prop up the roll vertically against the boards that allows the internal heat of the roll to build upward much like you might hold a bird&#8217;s nest upward with an ember in the center to maximize the heat. A small black char spot begins to appear and a slight breath on the roll should reveal an ember that you can let build and in turn place in a tinder bundle to work into s flame.<img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/survivalteklogoanimated.gif"></p>
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		<title>Using Rocks For Fire-By-Friction</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jul 2019 11:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some months ago I was re-acquainted with the fire-roll method of fire-by-friction. I began to experiment with different fibers and powders and finally I tried a different flat surface material for rolling the tinder roll&#8230; rocks! I occasionally walk creeks with the purpose of searching for artifacts and relics. The geology in my area includes [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/FireRollUsingRocks.jpg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/FireRollUsingRocks-300x225.jpg" alt="Fire Roll Using Rocks" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5962" /></a>Some months ago I was re-acquainted with the <a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5844" target="new">fire-roll method</a> of fire-by-friction. I began to experiment with different <a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5880" target="new">fibers and powders</a> and finally I tried a different flat surface material for rolling the tinder roll&#8230; rocks!</p>
<p>I occasionally walk creeks with the purpose of searching for artifacts and relics. The geology in my area includes a lot of sedimentary stone that flakes apart and with the fire-roll method I began to collect flat rocks that might be suitable for use.</p>
<p>Most of the rocks that I found had some imperfections like bumps, split levels, or curved surfaces but I was finally able to find some that were quite flat. I began to examine the compatibility of the stone surfaces and found a pair that seemed to fit well together. I used the larger stone for the bottom and the smaller stone to be hand held.</p>
<p>I began to process the stones to better match surfaces by rubbing the top stone over the bottom stone much like a sanding block over wood. That action created some dust that I blew off and then prepared a tinder toll to test. The first try did not succeed because the two surfaces where still a little rough and I had to discover the best zones on the rocks to work on. after preparing a second tinder roll I had success!</p>
<p>In a previous post a comment was made that the person had seen a video of someone making fire using rocks and wondered if it was a hoax. I&#8217;m here to say that rubbing two rocks together can make fire-by-friction and it was a delight to achieve!<img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/survivalteklogoanimated.gif"></p>
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		<title>Collecting Iron Oxide &#8220;Rust&#8221; From Steel Wool</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2019 13:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would anyone want to collect rust? Rust (iron oxide Fe2O3) can be combined with other elements to create fire-by-friction, fire-by-percussion, and even thermite and small rocket propellant. My purpose to collect rust is to make a coal/ember using the fire roll firecraft method. Steel wool has some interesting properties and comes in different thicknesses [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SteelWool_PlainAndWithRust.jpg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SteelWool_PlainAndWithRust-300x225.jpg" alt="Steel Wool Plain And With Rust" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5929" /></a>Why would anyone want to collect rust? Rust (iron oxide  Fe2O3) can be combined with other elements to create fire-by-friction, fire-by-percussion, and even thermite and small rocket propellant. My purpose to collect rust is to make a coal/ember using the <a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5844" target="new">fire roll firecraft method</a>.</p>
<p>Steel wool has some interesting properties and comes in different thicknesses or grades from &#8220;0&#8221; to &#8220;0000&#8221;, the later being the finest grade. Firecrafters prefer the 0000 grade and will use a 9V battery to touch the steel wool which creates intensive sparks that when combined with fine tinder will create a flame. However, once the steel wool has been lit it will have been consumed as a source of sparks and will not reignite. This is because steel wool when manufactured is coated with an oil to prevent rust and that coating is the part that combusts. So, to collect rust from steel wool it is best to burn off the oil in order to better expose the steel for chemical oxidation.</p>
<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SteelWool_PreAndPostHeatTreatment.jpg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SteelWool_PreAndPostHeatTreatment-300x225.jpg" alt="Steel Wool Pre And Post Heat Treatment" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5930" /></a>To burn off the oil coating on the steel wool you can touch it with a 9V battery or use a lighter or in my case I used a propane torch. The steel wool will turn a shade of blue due to the temperature of the burn-off as illustrated in the photo. It will also become somewhat brittle.</p>
<p>After the burn-off you can dip the steel wool into plain water or you can enhance the process by adding salt or chlorine bleach to the water solution then shake it out and lay it down to do it&#8217;s transformation over night. In my experimentation I also used hydrogen peroxide (H202) and sprinkled salt on top. Rust was created within hours vs. overnight. When it&#8217;s dry, you can rub the rusted areas with a finger while holding the bundle over a sheet of paper so that the iron oxide particles fall below. When finished you can lift the sides of the paper to gather the dust into the center then tilt the paper down to pour the rust into a cup or other container. This can be repeated until you collect a sufficient amount for your purpose. A magnet can be used to separate wool particles but it must be held only close enough for the larger pieces to be withdrawn.</p>
<p>I was able to use my rust to create fire with the <a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5844" target="new">fire roll firecraft method</a> and was delighted to add to my firecraft accomplishments. And now you can too!<img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/survivalteklogoanimated.gif"></p>
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		<title>Turtle Island Preserve&#8217;s Families Learning Together 2019</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2019 13:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turtle Island Preserve (located in Boone, NC) lives and teaches traditional and sustainable living skills and methods. I was initially invited by Eustace Conway, the founder, to demonstrate some of my primitive and survival skills and over the last eight years I have enjoyed spending time with the staff, volunteers, and attendees at different events. [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/FireRollInstruction.jpg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/FireRollInstruction-300x225.jpg" alt="Fire Roll Instruction" width="300" height="225" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5899" /></a><a href="turtleislandpreserve.org" target="new">Turtle Island Preserve</a> (located in Boone, NC) lives and teaches traditional and sustainable living skills and methods. I was initially invited by Eustace Conway, the founder, to demonstrate some of my primitive and survival skills and over the last eight years I have enjoyed spending time with the staff, volunteers, and attendees at different events. This year at the annual Families Learning Together event I focused on a single demonstration of <a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5844" target="new">&#8220;the fire roll&#8221;</a> method of creating fire-by-friction.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just been reacquainted with this fire-by-friction method recently and enjoy the simplicity and ease-of-use to create an ember/coal so I wanted to share it with others, enabling them to try it out for themselves. Folks who tried it were delighted with how quickly they could create a coal that could be placed into a tinder bundle to create fire. The more hefty the firecrafter the quicker the ember would be created when a person&#8217;s weight over the top board would cause greater friction when passed over the tinder roll.</p>
<p><a href="https://youtu.be/8-w2ujsBsDg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/TIP_FireRoll_UNCTV-300x225.jpg" alt="UNC-TV Interview At Turtle Island Preserve" width="300" height="225" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5900" target="new" /></a></p>
<p>&nbsp;<br />In the course of the day some videographer&#8217;s from UNC-TV Public Media North Carolina arrived to capture footage for the program <a href="https://www.unctv.org/watch/unctv-originals/nc-weekend/" target="new">North Carolina Weekend</a> (Airing Thursdays, at 9 PM, on UNC-TV) and I was able to demonstrate this fire-by-friction method as well as shared my thoughts on Turtle Island Preserve, Families Learning Together, and Eustace Conway. I was glad to give a positive report! I was featured (for a whole two seconds worth! starting at 2:19) along with a host of other folks that day. Click on the photo to see the finished video production that captured the day&#8217;s events.</p>
<p>It is always fun to share my knowledge and skills but just as importantly to learn from others who have come to share their knowledge and experiences. I highly recommend this annual event as a destination for you, your family, and friends next year. Perhaps I&#8217;ll see you there.<img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/survivalteklogoanimated.gif"></p>
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		<title>Fire Roll Tinder Variations</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Apr 2019 11:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago I got re-acquainted with the fire roll firecraft method. I had been inspired to re-explore this by watching various social media videos. The simplest and most reliable materials used were cotton fiber and ashes but I learned that other materials could be used as well so I began experimenting with different [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><div id="attachment_5885" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignright"><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NaturalFibers.jpg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/NaturalFibers-300x225.jpg" alt="Natural Fibers" width="300" height="225" class="size-medium wp-image-5885" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">(L-R) Cotton, Jute, Sisal, Dogbane, Coconut Husk</p></div>A few weeks ago I got <a href="https://survivaltek.com/?p=5844" target="new">re-acquainted with the fire roll firecraft method</a>. I had been inspired to re-explore this by watching various social media videos. The simplest and most reliable materials used were cotton fiber and ashes but I learned that other materials could be used as well so I began experimenting with different powders and fibers.</p>
<p>I used ashes as my base powder for testing fibers and was successful using cotton, jute, sisal, dogbane, and coconut husk. These were all natural fibers. Some of the fibers were obtained by unraveling cordage. What didn&#8217;t work was artificial fibers from dryer lint and cigarette butts.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_5886" style="width: 310px" class="wp-caption alignleft"><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/FireRollPowders.jpg"><img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/FireRollPowders-300x225.jpg" alt="Fire Roll Powders" width="300" height="225" class="size-medium wp-image-5886" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">(Clockwise from upper left) Wood Ash, Baking Soda, Comet Cleanser, Char Cloth (Carbon), Oxi-Clean Detergent</p></div>Unraveled cotton balls provided my base fiber for testing different powders. I successfully used wood ash, baking soda, comet cleanser, char cloth (carbon), and Oxi-Clean detergent powder. These were generally carbon/oxidizer related materials. Not everything worked that I tested such as coffee creamer, instant coffee powder, artificial sweetener, baking powder, Boraxo, chalk powder and salt. The sweetener/sugar related powders would just melt together by the heat and harden the fiber roll, causing them to flatten out and were not roll-able. Some rolls got hot but not hot enough for igniting an ember.</p>
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<p>In the process of testing these materials I began to perfect my technique of preparing the roll, rolling it, and the signs of successful ignition. Here are some observations and suggestions.</p>
<p>When I roll up the thick fibers I end up with a roll that resembles a cocoon or fat AA battery. I begin by rolling it in one direction by hand so that it successfully adheres to it&#8217;s self. I continue to roll it in one direction using the upper board to compact it further while warming it up internally. Once it is reduced in diameter similar to a cigarette or pencil I use both hands to roll it back and forth.</p>
<p>I begin at a moderate pace then add speed and pressure over 20-30 strokes. Sometimes at a certain point you can feel a certain &#8220;grip&#8221; of friction that signals it&#8217;s ready to uncover and look for a dark spot or a wisp of smoke. You can feel the roll with your fingers for a hot spot and after a few successes you will know the temperature of a success. If the roll is not hot enough just replace it and roll vigorously again. In the humid atmosphere here sometimes it&#8217;s best if you see a wisp of smoke to just let it smolder a bit to allow it to build heat because if you blow on it too soon sometimes it cools it off enough to snuff it out. Once the ember appears you can use it in the conventional manner to add to a &#8220;birds nest&#8221; or tinder bundle to work into a flame. You can use the left-over fibers used for creating the roll for this purpose.</p>
<p>The fire roll method is my new best fire-by-friction friend and I&#8217;m sure that more tinder tests will be performed in the future.<img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/survivalteklogoanimated.gif"></p>
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		<title>Revisiting The Fire Roll Firecraft Method</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Mar 2019 11:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ken]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Throughout the years I have searched various media to learn more about firecraft and the various methods used. Almost two decades ago I visited an on-line forum and read about a way to make fire by rolling a tube of cotton filled with charcoal between two boards to create an ember coal. I tried it [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/TinderRollEmber.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5846" src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/TinderRollEmber-300x225.jpg" alt="Tinder Roll Ember" width="300" height="225" /></a>Throughout the years I have searched various media to learn more about firecraft and the various methods used. Almost two decades ago I visited an on-line forum and read about a way to make fire by rolling a tube of cotton filled with charcoal between two boards to create an ember coal. I tried it unsuccessfully and put it on my &#8220;try later&#8221; list. A few years ago I was watching an episode of &#8220;Fat guys in the woods&#8221; on television that was hosted by Creek Stewart. He showed his students how to make fire using the fire roll method which inspired me to try it again. This time I was successful! A few weeks ago I was viewing some YouTube videos and found that this method has grown in popularity. I wanted to revisit this firecraft method. The rolling process has basically remained the same but the materials used to make the tinder roll have varied as seen in several video demonstrations.</p>
<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CottonStripWithAsh.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5848" src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CottonStripWithAsh-300x225.jpg" alt="Cotton Strip With Ash" width="300" height="225" /></a>&nbsp;<br />I decided to try the popular combination of cotton and ashes. I used two 1/2&#8243;x4&#8243; boards, one measuring one foot long as the rolling board with the other one being two feet long as the base board. I braced the baseboard end against a deck post. A cotton ball can be unraveled into a strip that measures approximately seven inches long by one inch wide. I sprinkled hickory ashes about half way along the cotton strip and rolled it up as tight as possible.<br />
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<a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CottonTinderRoll.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5852" src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/CottonTinderRoll-300x225.jpg" alt="Cotton Tinder Roll" width="300" height="225" /></a><br />
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When completely wound I rolled the cotton strip in one direction by hand along the baseboard to ensure it&#8217;s self adhesion to prevent it from unrolling. After several rolls by hand the tinder roll begins to widen and I took the shorter board and rolled it over the tinder roll in one direction toward the post several times to begin to heat it up</p>
<p><a href="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/RollingTheTinderRoll.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-5850" src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/RollingTheTinderRoll-300x225.jpg" alt="Rolling The Tinder Roll" width="300" height="225" /></a><br />
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<p>then rapidly rolled it back and forth while applying downward pressure. After about thirty strokes I removed the upper board and examined the tinder roll for a dark/hot spot and when I found it I carefully pulled it apart. As the exposed spot gets air it begins to form an ember which can be coaxed to a larger size with a steady breath.<br />
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<p>The ember came so quick I had to do it again. I found that using two hands to press down while rolling the tinder back and forth to be easier and more effective. It is probably the simplest, easiest, and fastest way to make fire by friction. Similar to flint and steel, where you need to have char beforehand to make a fire, it works best to have ash on hand for the tinder roll. However, other material can be used as well. It would be easy to create this kit in an urban setting but could prove to be more difficult in a wilderness situation. I plan to continue exploring this method using different materials for the tinder roll and the rolling surfaces.<img src="https://survivaltek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/survivalteklogoanimated.gif" alt="" /></p>
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